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NY Governor Paterson announces the introduction of a gay marriage bill in the NY State Legislature.

Texas Governor Rick Perry puts secession on the table.


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Apr. 16th, 2009 06:29 pm (UTC)
Can we force them to take the Bushes with them when they go?
Apr. 16th, 2009 06:41 pm (UTC)
Why would they do that? The Bushes are from Connecticut...
Apr. 16th, 2009 06:41 pm (UTC)
Apr. 16th, 2009 06:46 pm (UTC)
Yeehaw! Sayonara, Texas. :D
Apr. 16th, 2009 07:04 pm (UTC)
Hasn't Vermont been talking about secession for forever?
Apr. 16th, 2009 07:35 pm (UTC)
Not precisely. Every so often (the periodicity is determined in the state constitution, I think) they have a referendum on whether or not to remain within the union...

I think I recall seeing somewhere that Texas maintained the legal right to secede in a way that other states didn't, though...
Apr. 17th, 2009 01:36 am (UTC)
When Texas came in, they basically got the same deal as Vermont, with the right to leave, as I recall. Realistically, the Civil War removed that right from both of them, but they like to pretend anyways.

Says the guy who has been a legal resident of both of those states.
Apr. 17th, 2009 01:58 am (UTC)
You sure about that thing about Vermont referendums? I cannot find any discussion of it, and Vermont is one of the 23 states that are absent from lists of states that have Referendums and/or Initiatives.

The Texas thing is definitely a myth. Further, the Supreme Court Case that established precedent on whether a state can secede (answering the question with a firm No) was Texas v White.
Apr. 17th, 2009 02:53 am (UTC)
My handy Texan regularly reminds me that Texas has the legal right to secede.

Actually, he does this about every other time I mentioned anything related to the Civil War. :)

Edited at 2009-04-17 02:58 am (UTC)
Apr. 16th, 2009 07:34 pm (UTC)
Hey now, that's my home state you're talking about there. :)

Texas is a big oil processing and producing state. You lose that and you harm the country in some big ways. Unless of course you decide to get off oil as a means of supplying energy. *shrug*

But seriously, they weren't talking about secession, they were talking about securing States' rights.

Wait, we've seen this one before ...
Apr. 17th, 2009 03:33 am (UTC)
Okay, I haven't run the numbers, so yes, this is officially a data-free post.

But really, if Texas secedes and wants to play games with their oil trade, I want to say they probably lose in an all-out economic war with the rest of the US.

Granted, it'd suck for both sides. Not trying to dispute that.
Apr. 17th, 2009 06:25 pm (UTC)
Well, if Texas decides to secede, it probably doesn't care about a trade war with the US. :)
Apr. 18th, 2009 02:06 am (UTC)
Really? My uninformed impression is that Texas cannot grow all its own food.

Yes, I know that they aren't forced to trade with the US. *snerk* Unless we blockade them. Again.

My, I'm with the stupid ideas tonight. Where's my beer?!?
Apr. 16th, 2009 08:17 pm (UTC)
Hm. Maybe I better move my stuff out of Austin sooner rather than later.

Maybe I should just take my bikes and leave everything else. I've done without it all for basically three years now.
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Apr. 16th, 2009 11:21 pm (UTC)
You do realize the badlands aren't in texas, right? ;-)
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Apr. 17th, 2009 12:45 am (UTC)
Every now and then I teach students the rule about the person moving from Massachusetts to Texas, and in so doing making increasing both states' average intelligence.
Apr. 17th, 2009 01:33 am (UTC)
That sounds like yet another of those canards that people who think they are smart like to say to each other to keep them from having to listen to viewpoints that might challenge their worldview. I doubt that was your intent, but that's how it comes across.
Apr. 17th, 2009 12:26 pm (UTC)
I thought it came across as a joke and funny, so I guess it depends what your perspective is. And it's not because I'm horribly biased against Texas either - I'm also amused by yakshaver's response.
Apr. 17th, 2009 02:00 am (UTC)
You have that backwards.
Apr. 17th, 2009 05:39 am (UTC)
When you're calling other people stupid, it might help to proofread your sentence first. Even better would be not doing it at all.
Apr. 17th, 2009 10:35 am (UTC)
*smiles* it was a long day, and I don't name the places when I teach it. The concept that two sets can both have their means increase by a member of one set moving to the other is not obvious to most of my students.
Apr. 17th, 2009 05:18 pm (UTC)
The concept that two sets can both have their means increase by a member of one set moving to the other is not obvious to most of my students.

Seriously? They are baffled by that?

Are they from Massachusetts or Texas?
Apr. 17th, 2009 06:26 pm (UTC)
Both? :)
Apr. 17th, 2009 08:08 pm (UTC)
Yeah, it surprised me the first couple times, too. But it really does seem common.

Very few of my students are from either state (or the US in general).
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