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want to help in New Orleans?

Make these guys' prank stick; stop the HUD from demolishing serviceable low-income housing in New Orleans.

Write a congressman or somethin'. I dunno. I'm out of practice in this politics thing.


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Aug. 29th, 2006 02:41 pm (UTC)
The Yes Men are excellent. They put large organizations in the position of saying the equivalent of "I'm not going to stop beating my wife".
Aug. 29th, 2006 07:34 pm (UTC)
How is that excellent? Isn't "are you going to stop beating your wife?" the canonical example of dirty rhetoric? That sort of crap is the refuge of those whose position would be untenable in a straightforward discussion.
Aug. 29th, 2006 07:36 pm (UTC)
It's not dirty rhetoric if they are beating their wife.
Aug. 30th, 2006 06:25 pm (UTC)
Yes, it is. A loaded question is a loaded question, a logical fallacy is a logical fallacy, and dirty rhetoric is dirty rhetoric, regardless of the facts.

An experiment with no controls is a lousy experiment regardless of whether the conclusions are correct, and a mathematical proof which divides by zero is a bad proof, even if the theorem happens to be true.
Aug. 30th, 2006 02:01 pm (UTC)
It's funny in the Onion, sad in the Metro...
Sure, It would piss me off if they were doing it on talk shows or in conversations where people were trying to get information about issues. But I'm sort of fond of the concept of guerilla performance artists.

It strikes me more as satire than activism; maybe I'm misunderstanding their goals.
Aug. 30th, 2006 06:27 pm (UTC)
Re: It's funny in the Onion, sad in the Metro...
That's not satire. Satire would be pretending to be HUD and announcing that they're going to demolish all housing belonging to people below the poverty line.
Aug. 29th, 2006 08:03 pm (UTC)
According to HUD, these units are not serviceable; do you have evidence to the contrary?

(Given that the speaker also wants WalMart out of New Orleans, I'm naturally skeptical of his claims).
Aug. 29th, 2006 08:07 pm (UTC)
Nope. A's word against B's.

But getting some independent scrutiny on what seems to be a dispute that's important to a good number of people can't be a bad thing, right?
Aug. 29th, 2006 08:24 pm (UTC)
But that isn't what you first asserted your goal was here.
Aug. 31st, 2006 04:10 pm (UTC)
Pushing for an outcome of "stop this from happening" is not the same as desiring that outcome unconditionally.
Aug. 29th, 2006 08:41 pm (UTC)
I was wondering about that--the CNN article doesn't mention anything about whether there's mold in the housing units some other reason they might be uninhabitable.
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