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dialogue (paraphrased from zephyr)

me: buying a pepsi iTunes thing from the cafeteria sucks. I have a choice of being immoral, and cheating to make sure I get a winner, or grabbing the first one off the shelf and probably being a sucker because someone else probably already looked at it and put it back.
wisdom's various voices: Just grab one of the ones in the back? I often do that with milk.
me: i know what i'm going to do. i'm going to cheat, in order to make my results come out to exactly 1/3.
wisdom 1: hee. that's an interesting moral choice :) I approve.
wisdom 2: So, what is the moral objection to looking under the cap, anyway? One could say that it's Pepsi's fault for making it possible to do so
me:because pepsi doesn't pay for the mistake, the next guy in line pays for it.
wisdom 2: The next guy in line can do the same thing, if he cares.
wisdom 1: if he knows. and there will be a guy who is only left with losers.
me: and then that guy buys no pepsi, getting a coke instead. which means pepsi pays for their own mistake. which is ok by me. this requires more thought.
wisdom 1: then again, there are probably plenty of people out there who don't care about iTunes and will throw out the caps. That's what the web site with instructions on peeking used to justify cheating.
wisdom 2: Those people should cheat to leave winners on the shelf, then.

My conscience would be so disappointed. I think I'm just gonna cheat when I can. (Usually I get my Diet Pepsi from a machine, though, and cheating isn't really an option there...) Pass the word on; everyone who cares about the songs should cheat, so that it becomes first come first serve, which is another kind of fair altogether.

Hmm. It still requires thought. I'm currently 2 for 5 thanks to a single swap in the cafeteria; I told myself that even if after the swap it was a loser I'd keep it, and I believe I meant it. I could still do this maintain the average thing if I wanted.

Comments

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firstfrost
Feb. 19th, 2004 11:32 am (UTC)
Isn't it just as unethical to do it with milk, though?
You're still basically taking a "better" product, leaving the "worse" products for the other people (whether they know better or not) to take.

Not to say that it's actually unethical to do it with milk, but if you're worrying about the one, why not worry about the other?
crs
Feb. 19th, 2004 11:35 am (UTC)
Re:
Well, it's bad to thump the watermelons too, and only take the good ones.

No, wait.
firstfrost
Feb. 19th, 2004 11:43 am (UTC)
Well, by the time it gets to *bad* watermelons, it's probably best if nobody buys them. But for milk and other slowly-degrading products, it's a more interesting question, at least at the point where *most* people are doing it, because then you get extra-old milk in front which the hapless other people end up with.
lemurtanis
Feb. 19th, 2004 01:11 pm (UTC)
Re:
I have to ask, what's up with the giant red stuffed penis in this LJ icon?
crs
Feb. 19th, 2004 01:38 pm (UTC)
Re:
um, it's an oven mitt.

I better find a better alton brown shot to use, i guess. *blush*
lemurtanis
Feb. 19th, 2004 01:48 pm (UTC)
Re:
*giggles uncontrollably*

Ordinarily I'd say not to worry and that it was just my dirty mind, but the part on the left _really_ looks like a big red furry...well, yeah.

I'll be over here in the corner now.
crs
Feb. 19th, 2004 01:54 pm (UTC)
Re: big furry... well, yeah
http://www.altonbrown.com/pages/essentls.html has the original for this picture.
lemurtanis
Feb. 19th, 2004 01:10 pm (UTC)
Pish tosh. Pepsi expects that 2/3 of free songs will go unclaimed, but by their own contest rules they're bound to pay for up to all the songs. Think of it as forcing a giant corporation to put its money where its mouth is.

Also, I'm not sure why it's suddenly big news that you can see the writing on contest caps on bottles of this size. It's been possible for years, particularly with Sprite/7UP/etc.
baronet
Feb. 20th, 2004 02:07 pm (UTC)
Humm
I think, but am not certain that both of
wisdom 1: hee. that's an interesting moral choice :) I approve.
and
wisdom 2: Those people should cheat to leave winners on the shelf, then.
were z'd by the same person, in that I think that I typed them both. I could easily be wrong though as sometimes people steal my thoughts and get them into the keyboard faster than I do. I got find that tin foil hat around here somewhere.
thomb
Feb. 20th, 2004 03:06 pm (UTC)
I'm not sure I see any moral problem here at all. It is, at worst, a tragedy-of-the-commons situation, but where the commons is not a crucial resource and nobody is really hurt at all.
dpolicar
Feb. 22nd, 2004 02:05 pm (UTC)
just to further confuse matters, I'll point out that Paulo has been buying pepsi without looking at the caps and has been hitting about 50%
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