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Good job, Dreamwidth

Well finessed, with the backwards compatibility, and the limited resource of invitations giving it just that ever-so-subtle sheen of elitism. Someone finally answered the question "Ok, everyone is getting sick of Livejournal, but they're stuck there. How do we turn this into an opportunity?"

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dcltdw
May. 4th, 2009 02:48 pm (UTC)
Dreamwidth made me ponder the following two points:

1, are we living in an era where, technologically speaking, we'll move from implementation to implementation, rather than sticking with one thing?

What comes to mind is the difference between "I always buy Ford" to "I get a new cellphone or blog every two years".

Hmm. Is this a realization of "be ready to throw the first one away"?

2, are we moving to a model where we have a lot of subscriptions? I suppose maybe it's from material to virtual subscriptions: I don't pay $15/month for a TIME or Newsweek subscription, but instead, I pay $15/month for a WoW or blog subscription.

Perhaps that should be "and": Time and Newsweek, WoW and blog.




the limited resource of invitations giving it just that ever-so-subtle sheen of elitism

Elitism or desirability? Although, ooh, if you reflect that back on me, I'm not sure I can tell the difference. What makse a Coach bag so elitist is partially that they're limited in quantity and priced so highly, hmm.

Or perhaps a combination of both? Or perhaps it's a sense of elitism (which makes it desirable to some people) -and- a sense of limitedness (which makes it desirable to other people)?
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dzm
May. 4th, 2009 10:10 pm (UTC)
Ignoring the "OMG LJ is going to DIE" bit, there's three big things keeping me from moving. One is "all the content I already have on LJ", which like you I'm not hugely attached to, but one of DW's big pulls seems to be "we'll migrate it all over". A second thing is a desire to have a more "real" blog -- I don't necessarily want to share my LJ with my coworkers, but if I were to set up a new blog a more professional one would be nice. But the third thing is the name...if I move blog engines, will people remember not to type "livejournal.com" any more?
mjperson
May. 4th, 2009 03:17 pm (UTC)

Are we all sick of LJ? I forget why...
forgotten_aria
May. 4th, 2009 03:26 pm (UTC)
Russians! it's been taken over by russians! (I don't actually know why.)
dcltdw
May. 4th, 2009 03:50 pm (UTC)
I -think- it's a worry over whether LJ's owners will either use my writing sans permission, or just shut down (and thus it'd all be lost).

I'm not too worried about the former (snerk) and really, I am under no delusions that my prose is worth saving. :) But yes, I understand that's just me, and others may feel more attached to their writing. :)
forgotten_aria
May. 4th, 2009 03:53 pm (UTC)
I archive my journal periodically, if for no there reason I can then grep my life.
forgotten_aria
May. 4th, 2009 03:26 pm (UTC)
I find it wrong that people are using lj to (not you) advertise Dreamwidth.
kareila
May. 4th, 2009 03:55 pm (UTC)
Have you created an account? I have invites if you need em.
crs
May. 4th, 2009 04:07 pm (UTC)
Hm, I might as well stake out my namespace. Can I have one?
kareila
May. 4th, 2009 07:21 pm (UTC)
Of course! Check your email in a minute or so.
thatwesguy
May. 4th, 2009 05:01 pm (UTC)
I too am puzzled as to why LJ is bad. I have no plans to move to another service.
readsalot
May. 5th, 2009 02:10 am (UTC)
The final impetus to get DreamWidth going was when they laid off all of their US developers, who actually, like, knew the code base, in favor of the ones in Russia who don't, but are presumably less expensive. The people who are running DreamWidth had been working on it for a while, but that really started it moving.

The major problem is that LJ keeps coming up with arbitrary policy changes to limit what people can post, or list as their interests, or put in their default icons, or whatever. A general belief is that they're doing this because they're worried about what their advertisers will think. DW, having no advertisers, doesn't have that worry.

Also, DW is currently using Open Source code (the way LJ used to) and is planning to stay that way, and doesn't intend to have "free" (advertising-supported) accounts. That's the reason behind invite codes--either you get an invite code from someone, or you pay for an account. It keeps the account base smaller. Also, note that if you don't know anyone at all who can give you an invite code, you can pay for an account for one month and then revert to a free account.
readsalot
May. 5th, 2009 02:22 am (UTC)
Also, this is an LJ entry from one of the founders of DreamWidth, and what got me interested in looking at the service.
lokiect
May. 4th, 2009 05:06 pm (UTC)
ditto- crs, please explain what's down on lj and up on dreamwidth?
though I must say, trying to stake out lokie is tempting. at least now the lj lokie is quiet and still very clearly not me ;9
crs
May. 4th, 2009 05:09 pm (UTC)
The down on lj is, near as I can tell, mostly FUD. "Oh look, they're owned by Russians now... is that the Russian mafia?" "Oh hey, they laid people off in SF, they must be shutting down, everyone back up your posts!"

I'm likely not making any move over to DW myself, but if there's an easy step that hedges my bets to make my life a little easier if things *do* go south, I might as well do that... and it seems there is.
lokiect
May. 4th, 2009 05:25 pm (UTC)
ah, thanks. that meshes much more with my perception of things.

it's kind of funny you mention the elitism of friend codes, because people had the "oh no elitism"/"yay exclusive" response to lj when it required codes or cash.
narya
May. 4th, 2009 09:25 pm (UTC)
And also, LJ had the whole "censoring" fiasco last year (or the year before?). I'm sure people who were upset about that are seeing dreamworks as being warm and fuzzy just because they haven't done anything bad yet...
crs
May. 4th, 2009 10:00 pm (UTC)
I think that Dreamwidth has actively tried to word their marketing material in such a way to try to grab onto the people who were upset by that stuff.
desireearmfeldt
May. 4th, 2009 06:11 pm (UTC)
Not that I pay a lot of attention, but I think what people think is Bad about LJ and Better about DW is things like queer-antagonism/friendliness, and some other how-we-treat-the-users stuff. (But as you can tell by my vagueness, I'm not actually very well-informed.)
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