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How do we make this happen in Boston? Bus/T ads for atheism, I would probably donate a little to such a cause...

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rooneg
Jan. 6th, 2009 04:34 pm (UTC)
Glad I wasn't the only person who was thinking that...
chenoameg
Jan. 6th, 2009 04:38 pm (UTC)
There was a campaign in DC, but I like the message on the UK signs better.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2008/dec/11/religion-advertising-atheism-bus
hammercock
Jan. 6th, 2009 04:39 pm (UTC)
That's an excellent ad. It makes me happy. :)
mathhobbit
Jan. 6th, 2009 05:06 pm (UTC)
I like the text of the DC ads better, though the London ones make sense in their context.

Still, the idea of advertising atheism boggles me. What is the motivation? What are we hoping to gain? "I hate all these signs telling me what to believe. Let's run an add campaign!"

(FWIW, I've recently described myself as "more a believer in all gods than in none".)
lokiect
Jan. 6th, 2009 05:37 pm (UTC)
wow, an atheist sign that doesn't make fun of people who believe in god(s)! that is way more novel than it should be.

My impression has been that atheists are seen as having no morals because they don't believe in god. Every so often I see some clip about how atheists are the most hated group in america, ahead of muslims and homosexuals.
so I usually see those signs that promote atheism and mock religious people (and their "imaginary friend") as shooting themselves in the foot and being about equivalent to the other fundies.
gentlescholar
Jan. 6th, 2009 06:05 pm (UTC)
Agreed. A polite and dignified statement is better.
Here's my attempt:

"Be kind to each other. Care about people more than dogmas. Help each other. Instead of worrying about which gods people worship, think about what good you can do in the world. Give to charity. Do good deeds."
--a plea from the Atheists and Agnostics of America
kvarko
Jan. 6th, 2009 11:07 pm (UTC)
I agree, which is why the UK ad seems to be worded poorly to me -- not being in the context of the religious ads that it's countering. Saying "enjoy your life" seems to feed into the impression of atheists as hedonistic moralless people. While "enjoy your life" can mean spend more time with your kids, spend more time with friends, volunteer in your neighborhood, etc, it can just as easily be taken by anti-atheists as "responsibility be damned", sex, drugs, and rock'n'roll! While sex, drugs, and rock'n'roll might not necessarily be bad, that's not an argument that I want to get into at the same time as trying to make a statement about atheism. I like the DC slogan, "Just be good for goodness' sake" as well as gentlescholar's text.
mathhobbit
Jan. 7th, 2009 03:46 am (UTC)
Yes, the London busses only make sense to me as a response to some other busses that talk about damnation. That's key.
purpletentacle
Jan. 7th, 2009 03:02 pm (UTC)
I think I like the the prominent figures quotes that are being displayed in the London tube stations better then the initial slogan for the exact reasoning you just stated.

I like Hepburn's a lot.
"I'm an atheist, and that's it. I believe there's nothing we can know except that we should be kind to each other and do what we can for each other."
Photo of that particular ad
hammercock
Jan. 6th, 2009 07:15 pm (UTC)
What is the motivation? What are we hoping to gain?

Visibility. Equal time.
kvarko
Jan. 6th, 2009 11:15 pm (UTC)
My motivation would be informational, to counter misinformation or suppositions which people have, for two purposes: (1) Make non-atheists more tolerant of atheists (by seeing that atheists aren't evil criminal irresponsible people), and (2) suggest atheism as a possible idea, to people who might be receptive to the idea but have just never been exposed to it (or had been misinformed about it).

(On the second point, I would liken it to an ad campaign suggesting that people bicycle more often. When I went to highschool, I drove the couple miles to school. That's an easily bikeable distance, and I lived in a temperate state. But it never in a million years would have occurred to me to bike to school. But I have to think that if someone had just proposed the idea to me at the time, I would have totally done it -- particularly if there was visibility that other people were doing it too. I'd just never been exposed to the idea. I would not take a proposal of an underrepresented idea, or an attempt to show visibility of a support network, as forcing any opinions on anyone or forcing anyone to change.)

tiptoeinthesnow
Jan. 6th, 2009 05:27 pm (UTC)
i don't know... the concept looks creepy to me.
plumtreeblossom
Jan. 6th, 2009 05:34 pm (UTC)
I'd donate...
chenoameg
Jan. 6th, 2009 07:22 pm (UTC)
Excellent icon.
rshah21
Jan. 6th, 2009 06:21 pm (UTC)
Boston Humanist movement
Seems like Boston has a pretty decent sized humanist movement - the recent convention at Harvard caught the eye of the Times and the Post. They would surely be a good place to start if you were keen on this.
flexagon
Jan. 7th, 2009 02:02 am (UTC)
If you figure it out, I'm in.
heisenbug
Jan. 7th, 2009 02:11 am (UTC)
I'm not sure Boston would be the most useful place to do this, unless you could concentrate the advertisements in the more religious areas. I'm reminded of when the animated billboards on the Red Line between Harvard and Central were advertising an SUV. I mean, aside from (maybe) income, what demographic is LESS likely to buy one?

But I like the idea and would donate.

What about Google ads?
luckylefty
Jan. 7th, 2009 04:40 pm (UTC)
While it would be cool for this to happen in Boston, the effect on the rest of the country would just to increase the dismissal of those from Massachusetts as crazy athiest gay liberals. While I would chip in for such an ad campaign for buses in Boston, I'd chip in more to see this on buses in Kansas.
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